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	<title>Comments on: The Four Learning Styles and How They Can Help Team Progression</title>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished an article on a similar subject -- I&#039;ve kind of expanded some of your ideas and added my own experience, and directed it more towards hardcore raiding guilds.

Take a look, it might be interesting :)

http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/02/who-plays-in-a-hardcore-guild/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished an article on a similar subject &#8212; I&#8217;ve kind of expanded some of your ideas and added my own experience, and directed it more towards hardcore raiding guilds.</p>
<p>Take a look, it might be interesting <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/02/who-plays-in-a-hardcore-guild/">http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/02/who-plays-in-a-hardcore-guild/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah :) Well, I meant more as members of a guild roster, and what that means for the poor guild leader!

Bartle was my lecturer at university, incidentally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Well, I meant more as members of a guild roster, and what that means for the poor guild leader!</p>
<p>Bartle was my lecturer at university, incidentally!</p>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already did :)
http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2008/04/22/joining-the-bartle-test-bandwagon/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already did <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2008/04/22/joining-the-bartle-test-bandwagon/">http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2008/04/22/joining-the-bartle-test-bandwagon/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great post! Nice to see some other people are writing on similar, contemporary topics as I am.

Maybe next up you can use Bartle&#039;s player-type test! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great post! Nice to see some other people are writing on similar, contemporary topics as I am.</p>
<p>Maybe next up you can use Bartle&#8217;s player-type test! (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1627</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I most definitely do not mind :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I most definitely do not mind <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: artorin</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>artorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m linking and posting a copy of this on my guild forums I hope you don&#039;t mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m linking and posting a copy of this on my guild forums I hope you don&#8217;t mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Zahrah</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Zahrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious &lt;3 for bringing this up..
Its so true, and I think every good raid leader/gm needs to have at least considered that a single approach is not the best way to reach all the people.
In addition Some people aren&#039;t aware of their own learning styles - and a change in the approach to how you learn can have a massive impact of the quality of information you absorb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serious &lt;3 for bringing this up..<br />
Its so true, and I think every good raid leader/gm needs to have at least considered that a single approach is not the best way to reach all the people.<br />
In addition Some people aren&#8217;t aware of their own learning styles &#8211; and a change in the approach to how you learn can have a massive impact of the quality of information you absorb.</p>
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		<title>By: ApathyInc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ApathyInc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Activist + Pragmatist, with a bit of Theorist mixed in. :P</description>
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		<title>By: Ironhelm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ironhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! Too often we forget that we are leading people and that the well known and established leadership trends and principles apply. Almost always, I see raids &#039;hurry up and wait&#039;. They rush rush rush to clear to a boss, then wait long enough as someone (or multiples) explains the fight, assigns roles and sets up a macro and... can we start already?! Who did not prepare &#039;their own way&#039; for this fight?! Leave them off the inv list next time! Activists prepare by showing up. And taking 10 mins to explain the fight to them is lost on them, they are usually doing something else by then like AFK to get a beer.

I&#039;ve found that if I take 5 mins at the beginning of a raid before the first pull, while folks are making pots and consuming them, to talk about the overall general things for that specific raid group (e.g. moon is sheep and assigned to Joe, Star is sheep and assigned to Suzie) and to mention key points (e.g. John, when we get to XYZ in Gundrak, dismiss pet so that it does not path and pick up all the mobs when we jump down from the balcony), that it works best. Those that are interested, dial in, sometimes ask questions for more info, those that don&#039;t care, are off at bio or getting a beer.

When the schnitz hitz the fitz and itz wipez timez - we laugh, recover, quickly re-focus everyone, ask if there are any vital questions before we hit it again, then hit it. I don&#039;t leave room for recriminations. Simply put, some people need to die in the fight in order to be able to do the fight without dying -- and not everyone gets this. So when we die, it is important to tell the pissed off folks that it&#039;s ok, now we ALL know the fight. Lets get on with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! Too often we forget that we are leading people and that the well known and established leadership trends and principles apply. Almost always, I see raids &#8216;hurry up and wait&#8217;. They rush rush rush to clear to a boss, then wait long enough as someone (or multiples) explains the fight, assigns roles and sets up a macro and&#8230; can we start already?! Who did not prepare &#8216;their own way&#8217; for this fight?! Leave them off the inv list next time! Activists prepare by showing up. And taking 10 mins to explain the fight to them is lost on them, they are usually doing something else by then like AFK to get a beer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that if I take 5 mins at the beginning of a raid before the first pull, while folks are making pots and consuming them, to talk about the overall general things for that specific raid group (e.g. moon is sheep and assigned to Joe, Star is sheep and assigned to Suzie) and to mention key points (e.g. John, when we get to XYZ in Gundrak, dismiss pet so that it does not path and pick up all the mobs when we jump down from the balcony), that it works best. Those that are interested, dial in, sometimes ask questions for more info, those that don&#8217;t care, are off at bio or getting a beer.</p>
<p>When the schnitz hitz the fitz and itz wipez timez &#8211; we laugh, recover, quickly re-focus everyone, ask if there are any vital questions before we hit it again, then hit it. I don&#8217;t leave room for recriminations. Simply put, some people need to die in the fight in order to be able to do the fight without dying &#8212; and not everyone gets this. So when we die, it is important to tell the pissed off folks that it&#8217;s ok, now we ALL know the fight. Lets get on with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2009/02/02/the-four-learning-styles-and-how-they-can-help-team-progression/#comment-1619</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a very strong pragmatist, strong theorist and weaker with the rest. There&#039;s actually tests to find out how you are balanced in the four styles but they&#039;re all copyrighted and cost a chunk of money.

Bring the open source...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a very strong pragmatist, strong theorist and weaker with the rest. There&#8217;s actually tests to find out how you are balanced in the four styles but they&#8217;re all copyrighted and cost a chunk of money.</p>
<p>Bring the open source&#8230;</p>
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