Comments on: Wrath of the Lich King: NOW We Can Talk

By: Stop

Stop — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:32:29 +0000

Well they gave Warriors another threat reduction talent deep into the Fury tree, but of course none of us are going to take it.

It’s also a matter of Heroic Strike doing additional threat. If you can get flurried 2h’s down to the 2-2.2 second mark, then slam becomes a waste and Heroic Strike takes over as the premier damage dealing ability like it is now, except you’re doing it with a 2h.

Blizzard realized 95% of Ret Paladins can’t dps worth a damn, so said “Here’s Righteous Vengeance and Divine Storm. Stop sucking.”

You can get a Paladin to go something like 47/0/24 and get most of the good stuff a Ret Paladin would bring, without all the hassle of an actual Ret Paladin. Plus Sheath of Light will get pretty crazy with all the raid wide AP buffs.

I’m still undecided about DK’s as high end DPS.

By: Gwaendar

Gwaendar — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:05:47 +0000

You mean in terms of DPS throttling for aggro? I wonder, because considering what DPS DKs and Ret Pallies ought to bring to the table in Wrath (at least in the current talent trees), a fury warrior’s core selling point should probably be high sustained melee DPS. This is taking the comment that DPS abilities across the board will generate less base threat at face value, of course.

By: Stop

Stop — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:00:49 +0000

With no more Salvation and no more TA, combined with WF adding 20% haste and dual-wielding 160 dps 2H’s at a flurried 2 seconds each, the future of the raiding Fury Warrior looks grim.

By: Gwaendar

Gwaendar — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:32:31 +0000

Now I’ll have to learn a whole new set of numbers! Bleh.

Shrug. Not bothered by that. It’s only a matter of adjusting your spreadsheets so that Flash of Light now benefits from your Spellpower x 1.29 instead of +healing x 0.43 – just new base numbers to look up somewhere

By: Cynra

Cynra — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:10:51 +0000

Hunter pet trees were a necessary change that should have been implemented quite some time ago. Hopefully this will help us have a little more variety in the optimal pets — for both PvP and PvE. Though that never kept me from taking a Strigid Owl with me instead of one of the oft-desired but so damned common kitties.

Not sure if I like the changes that change the benefit derived from Bonus Healing. As a theorycrafter, the current applied percentage of Bonus Healing is pretty easy to figure out using the appropriate equation that I’ve more than understood for quite some time now. Now I’ll have to learn a whole new set of numbers! Bleh.

By: gt

gt — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:08:43 +0000

Don’t be grim Gwaendar! Now are fun times for debating and pondering

You and Rohan seem to setting up separate camps on the Salv change.

I see the future you forsee but I also see the “only the tank gets the fear ward” sort of situation happening for “Hand Salv”. It could just become situational with priority to healer squishies. Let the DPS die. Half the rogues and hunters I know considered it a crutch anyway?

I for one already love tossing my Hammers already so more Hammer time is always fun for this nutter.