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	<title>Comments on: When Arena Gear only takes you so far</title>
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	<description>If One Toon Just Isn't Enough, You Can Always Roll Another 49</description>
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		<title>By: Hochopepa (Blackhand)</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/12/21/when-arena-gear-only-takes-you-so-far/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Hochopepa (Blackhand)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My priest has good PVE gear and 1600ish healing with buffs and I still don't like healing the Prince fight.  I would much rather be on my hunter calling out Infernals...  lol  

If it is a choice between calling the raid or giving out the lighter healing assignment to an undergeared healer, I would much rather give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My priest has good PVE gear and 1600ish healing with buffs and I still don&#8217;t like healing the Prince fight.  I would much rather be on my hunter calling out Infernals&#8230;  lol  </p>
<p>If it is a choice between calling the raid or giving out the lighter healing assignment to an undergeared healer, I would much rather give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For "farmed" status encounters, when there is a choice between 9 people/calling the raid and 10 people/fight is a bit tougher due to gear, the latter is ok.

The first time our guild downed Gruul, I had to bring in my PVP spec'd, PVP geared Resto Druid for those key HOTs during silences---way undergeared, think I had ~1100 Healing, ~60MP5. I helped offset this a little by way of consumables, but it was clear that I could only stick to my maintank/offtank lifebloom and rejuve rotations, anything more would be really stretching it for my gear.

From then on, seeing how I did bring in my Druid sometimes for class balance reasons, I worked on my PVE gear for those just in case days---I have now safely healed as a Druid with 1 other healer in Kara, full clear, ~1600 Healing and ~140MP5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;farmed&#8221; status encounters, when there is a choice between 9 people/calling the raid and 10 people/fight is a bit tougher due to gear, the latter is ok.</p>
<p>The first time our guild downed Gruul, I had to bring in my PVP spec&#8217;d, PVP geared Resto Druid for those key HOTs during silences&#8212;way undergeared, think I had ~1100 Healing, ~60MP5. I helped offset this a little by way of consumables, but it was clear that I could only stick to my maintank/offtank lifebloom and rejuve rotations, anything more would be really stretching it for my gear.</p>
<p>From then on, seeing how I did bring in my Druid sometimes for class balance reasons, I worked on my PVE gear for those just in case days&#8212;I have now safely healed as a Druid with 1 other healer in Kara, full clear, ~1600 Healing and ~140MP5.</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy, I would've taken you in a heartbeat over my guildie that we had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, I would&#8217;ve taken you in a heartbeat over my guildie that we had.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/12/21/when-arena-gear-only-takes-you-so-far/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question about the "no help at all" though is, what will piss off your guild more: declining because you don't want to put them at risk and thus forcing them to end their run, or going and wiping with them? And the logical and pragmatic answer isn't necessary the best one.
Plus, as I recounted, although it was a close call, we actually made it and one of our tanks improved his gear as a consequence. It's just that looking on how things have gone, I'm far from satisfied by my contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question about the &#8220;no help at all&#8221; though is, what will piss off your guild more: declining because you don&#8217;t want to put them at risk and thus forcing them to end their run, or going and wiping with them? And the logical and pragmatic answer isn&#8217;t necessary the best one.<br />
Plus, as I recounted, although it was a close call, we actually made it and one of our tanks improved his gear as a consequence. It&#8217;s just that looking on how things have gone, I&#8217;m far from satisfied by my contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Galoheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galoheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go with the no help at all is better than inadequate help. But thats just my personal way of looking at things. Yet all you can give is your best in said gear and trying to last as long as you can in mana.

Gearing up isn't all that hard. The commitment to do so in considering all things is i would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go with the no help at all is better than inadequate help. But thats just my personal way of looking at things. Yet all you can give is your best in said gear and trying to last as long as you can in mana.</p>
<p>Gearing up isn&#8217;t all that hard. The commitment to do so in considering all things is i would say.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are guides for that, a lot of good ones for that. Lack of motivation to PUG these days is the primary reason for slacking gear, as for investing cash, well, I still have the hope of getting my epic flyer.
Plus, I'm having a lot of fun with my mage.
Still, last night was a warning, and while I'm in no way part of the raiding cadre, no help at all is better than inadequate help, so it's going to be back to PUGs for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are guides for that, a lot of good ones for that. Lack of motivation to PUG these days is the primary reason for slacking gear, as for investing cash, well, I still have the hope of getting my epic flyer.<br />
Plus, I&#8217;m having a lot of fun with my mage.<br />
Still, last night was a warning, and while I&#8217;m in no way part of the raiding cadre, no help at all is better than inadequate help, so it&#8217;s going to be back to PUGs for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don't you gear him up a bit?

My main is a 70 feral druid, and I followed BBB's guide to starting gear and, between crafted (=bought in AH!) and quest rewards, I now have an (almost complete) set of reasonable tanking gear! Sure, I spent a few hundred gold there, actually, more like a few more hundred gold, and I even don't play him much, but after an embarrassing Old Hilsbrad run where I performed sub-par due to being under-geared, I took on that challenge and geared up! I haven't set a foot in another instance yet, but when I do, I'll go much more confident! Still miss a couple points of defense, but not many, and have decent hp/armor pools now...

Maybe somewhere out there exists a similar guide for a healing pally?! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you gear him up a bit?</p>
<p>My main is a 70 feral druid, and I followed BBB&#8217;s guide to starting gear and, between crafted (=bought in AH!) and quest rewards, I now have an (almost complete) set of reasonable tanking gear! Sure, I spent a few hundred gold there, actually, more like a few more hundred gold, and I even don&#8217;t play him much, but after an embarrassing Old Hilsbrad run where I performed sub-par due to being under-geared, I took on that challenge and geared up! I haven&#8217;t set a foot in another instance yet, but when I do, I&#8217;ll go much more confident! Still miss a couple points of defense, but not many, and have decent hp/armor pools now&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe somewhere out there exists a similar guide for a healing pally?! <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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