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	<title>Comments on: PTR 2.3 - Retadins will retain tanking capabilities</title>
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	<description>If One Toon Just Isn't Enough, You Can Always Roll Another 49</description>
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		<title>By: Gwaendar</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/10/25/ptr-23-retadins-will-retain-tanking-capabilities/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwaendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, on the programming side it's not any more complicated than accounting for a stat bonus when you swap some armor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the being careful what you wish for, I don't think I'm really an optimist at heart but it reminds me of what happened when the SA nerf hit the test realms - we were so used to be kicked (and so busy fighting amongst each other we couldn't even mount a proper attempt at reversal) that we all thanked blizzard in tears when SA got "boosted up" to 60% return a bit later on - like one would thank someone trodding on his hand on purpose for eventually removing the boot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep fixated on druids. In WoW 1, druids were the only class as badly implemented as druids, and suddenly they have become one of the most well-designed in the game. They kept asking for changes with one voice, regardless of whether the choir was made up of ferals, moonkins or resto.&lt;br/&gt;Look at priests, who finally got their shadow tree turned into a raid-worthy spec. Look at rogues, who would be hard pressed to name an objective nerf to their class since weapon speed normalization happened in patch 1.8 or something. Look at hunters getting amazing changes &lt;i&gt;they didn't even ask for&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If we could just stop bickering amongst each other and get our seven factions to start clamoring for buffs as one, where would we be today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, on the programming side it&#8217;s not any more complicated than accounting for a stat bonus when you swap some armor.</p>
<p>As for the being careful what you wish for, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m really an optimist at heart but it reminds me of what happened when the SA nerf hit the test realms - we were so used to be kicked (and so busy fighting amongst each other we couldn&#8217;t even mount a proper attempt at reversal) that we all thanked blizzard in tears when SA got &#8220;boosted up&#8221; to 60% return a bit later on - like one would thank someone trodding on his hand on purpose for eventually removing the boot.</p>
<p>Keep fixated on druids. In WoW 1, druids were the only class as badly implemented as druids, and suddenly they have become one of the most well-designed in the game. They kept asking for changes with one voice, regardless of whether the choir was made up of ferals, moonkins or resto.<br />Look at priests, who finally got their shadow tree turned into a raid-worthy spec. Look at rogues, who would be hard pressed to name an objective nerf to their class since weapon speed normalization happened in patch 1.8 or something. Look at hunters getting amazing changes <i>they didn&#8217;t even ask for</i>.</p>
<p>If we could just stop bickering amongst each other and get our seven factions to start clamoring for buffs as one, where would we be today?</p>
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		<title>By: gt</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/10/25/ptr-23-retadins-will-retain-tanking-capabilities/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>gt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massive bug? yes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Am I the only one who is quite frightened by Blizzard actually listening to Paladin complaints and responding with changes in line with want people actually ask for?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is this one of those be careful what you wish for situations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massive bug? yes.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who is quite frightened by Blizzard actually listening to Paladin complaints and responding with changes in line with want people actually ask for?</p>
<p>Is this one of those be careful what you wish for situations?</p>
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		<title>By: Inaraserra</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/10/25/ptr-23-retadins-will-retain-tanking-capabilities/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Inaraserra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huzzah!! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But.. does anyone else look at that tooltip and think.. its a massive bug waiting-to-happen?&lt;br/&gt;Maybe its just my dismal programming skills, but the idea of having to figure out exactly when the threat reduction is on/off makes me shudder!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huzzah!! </p>
<p>But.. does anyone else look at that tooltip and think.. its a massive bug waiting-to-happen?<br />Maybe its just my dismal programming skills, but the idea of having to figure out exactly when the threat reduction is on/off makes me shudder!! <img src='http://altitis.treehuggers.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Galoheart</title>
		<link>http://altitis.treehuggers.info/2007/10/25/ptr-23-retadins-will-retain-tanking-capabilities/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Galoheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a great change for our class and for Rets. I think its the best way to do it having threat reduction and a way to cycle it on or off. Cheers for Rets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a great change for our class and for Rets. I think its the best way to do it having threat reduction and a way to cycle it on or off. Cheers for Rets.</p>
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